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Will the new mini FDAX contract from Eurex, that should launch 28th of october, be added ?
Full intraday FDAX margin is at $2500, can we expect it at $500 ?

Could you please reduce FESX margins again to match competitors ?

We are not currently reviewing FESX for lower margin requirements. To be clear, our intraday margin for FESX is $1000.

We will offer the mini FDAX contract when it releases later this month. Intraday margin is likely to be set at $1000 per contract for this market and we will review this after collecting more data on volume/liquidity once it is trading. As I stated in an earlier post, it will require the customer to specifically request Eurex to be enabled by emailing [email protected] because it is not part of our standard setup.

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 SARdynamite 
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As a standpoint comparison, margins at IG Markets (CFD) :
- DAX (point value : 5 euros) : 241 Euros
- DAX (point value : 25 euros) : 1295 euros
- EuroStoxx (point value : 10 euros) : 156 euros

This is a regret : I trade IG via a homemade "external connection" while I have been a multi-broker lifetime client since forever. Hence my hope that both world collide. I do prefer the principle of regulated trading over unregulated, however futures lack too many features CFD offer which equal money losses on several levels (and ...cannot stand the awfullness of FXCM unfortunately)
Thanks anyway

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As a standpoint comparison, margins at IG Markets (CFD) :
- DAX (point value : 5 euros) : 241 Euros
- DAX (point value : 25 euros) : 1295 euros
- EuroStoxx (point value : 2 euros) x 5 (to match futures) : 155 euros

This is a regret : I trade IG via a homemade "external connection" while I have been a multi-broker lifetime client since forever. Hence my hope that both world collide. I do prefer the principle of regulated trading over unregulated, however futures lack too many features CFD offer which equal money losses on several levels (and cannot stand the awfullness of FXCM unfortunately)
Thanks anyway

CFD's are not even close to futures.

It's like complaining that a Ferrari costs more than a Ford. They are not the same vehicle. If all you can afford is CFD's fine (which are illegal in the USA, for good reason) --- let's not drag futures down by comparing them to CFD's.

I am pretty sure if you go to a Ferrari dealer and say "but the Ford costs 200k less, will you match it" they will have a really good laugh.

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It's really a lot more grey than this. You can for instance take way more liquidity out of them than the opposite (available volumes on lighter instruments, without executions' deterioration, can't compete), ticksizes are a lot sharper = best breakout increments, more winnings for scalpers (which I am not), spreads are fixed at all times, and when the underlying from the futures marketplace is closed for technical issues (happened quite some times latest year), CFDs still quote(with slightly larger spreads) so you can hedge or flatten without uncontrolable losses, last, you don't reveal your intentions towards other market actors even on large quantites.
Anyway not here to debate (health issues). I know facts. Wish some experts could sum up from long experience. It could take hours. In France, when you speak about futures, you get the exact same commentary the other way 80% of the time. Cheers

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A good comparaison by someone who traded Futures and CFD but in French:
Analyse de mon trading sur CFD

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A good comparaison by someone who traded Futures and CFD but in French:
Analyse de mon trading sur CFD

Why do you say it is a 'good' comparison? I would rather call it 'enthusiastic'.

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I opened an with Ninja Brokerage. I funded the account today via wire which was confirmed as received. I have been struggling the entire day to get setup on the platform which I have been using for years. First, the login information sent today didn't work. Then Continuum wasn't listed in the dropdown. Then I get an email that "when I fund the account, I'll receive the correct login information". I sent an email back immediately that the wire was acknowledged by Ninja this morning. I have called, left messages - was assured someone would call back. Called again - now they're closed, they don't know where the hell my funds are and no one responds.

The people who answer the phone are incompetent. I'm furious with them. Maybe they're doing too much business and just don't need another account.

I had the same problems, a complete shambles to get up and running.
But worth it in the end as the platform is spot on.

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@NinjaTrader

I like your brokerage features as a whole although as a european (sorry for not being sorry ^^) it is too much oriented on the anglosaxon world, which can represent a miss to some ambitions

(When) Are you planning to add more global indices futures in a near future ?
like the FSMI (swiss indice from Eurex exchange that you already carry), IBEX35 (spanish one from Meffrv), FCE (/CAC) (french from Matif), SPI (australian on ASX), HSI (Hong Kong from HKFE). Do

I would add that it would be nice that your demo Continuum feed would get even to the live environment and offer live quotes (not only historical data) for all the contracts your brokerage firms has to offer. For instance, on the top of my head, the Z (LFZ) footsie100 future has no realtime data. There may be other ones in that situation. Prolly there is a cost savings explanation or else ?

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I had the same problems, a complete shambles to get up and running.
But worth it in the end as the platform is spot on.

Glad it worked out. It's an outstanding platform. Their tech support is the best - I've had all the platforms at one time or another - I still use TradeStation for development. But Ninja tech support folks are always on top of everything.

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I like your brokerage features as a whole although as a european (sorry for not being sorry ^^) it is too much oriented on the anglosaxon world, which can represent a miss to some ambitions

(When) Are you planning to add more global indices futures in a near future ?
like the FSMI (swiss indice from Eurex exchange that you already carry), IBEX35 (spanish one from Meffrv), FCE (/CAC) (french from Matif), SPI (australian on ASX), HSI (Hong Kong from HKFE). Do

I would add that it would be nice that your demo Continuum feed would get even to the live environment and offer live quotes (not only historical data) for all the contracts your brokerage firms has to offer. For instance, on the top of my head, the Z (LFZ) footsie100 future has no realtime data. There may be other ones in that situation. Prolly there is a cost savings explanation or else ?

We are working towards offering some additional global exchanges. In fact, we just began offering the Cac40 for customers at Phillip Capital (and expect to have this available at Dorman very soon), which we communicated in our Client Newsletter earlier this week. Additional exchanges are on the horizon!

As for the demo, this is simply a limitation of the data provider but there may be reasons besides cost savings (exchanges may have rules prohibiting it). However, with a live funded account, you would be able to see real-time data and trade in a simulated account.

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