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Old July 16th, 2014, 02:11 PM   #231 (permalink)
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Old July 16th, 2014, 02:20 PM   #232 (permalink)
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Sounds like those who use NT via another broker arrangement should anticipate an increase in what they pay which will then encourage those customers to switch their account o NT brokerage, right? Please correct me otherwise.

NinjaTrader has not raised it's platform pricing (not even for inflation) for 7+ years. We will release new advanced platform features exclusive to our brokerage in 2015. Any NinjaTrader brokerage clients will be protected from any potential price increase as a result of the introduction of these new features.

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Old July 16th, 2014, 02:22 PM   #233 (permalink)
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Why do you not guarantee this price feature to ALL your long standing customers who own lifetime licences, irrelevant to the date of owning an account with NJ Brokerage. This would show your dedication to your customer base who have been so loyal over the years.

Thanks for the suggestion it is a good idea and I will strongly consider it.

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Old July 16th, 2014, 02:26 PM   #234 (permalink)
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Thanks for the suggestion it is a good idea and I will strongly consider it.

Thank you, will follow and wait for your positive decision.

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Old July 16th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #235 (permalink)
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NinjaTrader has not raised it's platform pricing (not even for inflation) for 7+ years. We will release new advanced platform features exclusive to our brokerage in 2015. Any NinjaTrader brokerage clients will be protected from any potential price increase as a result of the introduction of these new features.


Thank you for taking the time to respond. You make a very fair point about no price increases for 7+ years. So, I think I should better articulate my concern.

It seems to be that intentionally or unintentionally, you guys are going the way of creating ecosystem whereby clients using NT through you guys will be treated differently than those who use NT through another brokerage. Putting commissions aside, this could take the form of different pricing structures for the platform, different versions or features of the platform, etc.?

It just seems to me, and if I am wrong please correct me, that the eventual intentional goal or likely outcome will be the shepherding of all NT users towards the NT brokerage. It seems to me that inevitably the buying decision NT users with other brokerages will inevitably face will be along the lines of:

Why stay with my current broker when I have to pay a higher fee to use the platform?
Why stay with my current broker when the version of NT they offer does not include the x, y and z features exclusively offered by NT brokerage?

Are these questions and concerns of mine misplaced?

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Old July 16th, 2014, 03:14 PM   #236 (permalink)
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I have a question that I have not found an answer for. If I had an active Mirus account as of January 2014 clearing through RJ'Obrien (not Dorman), do I need to submit a new application at Ninjatrader, or can the Mirus account be re-activated? If so, I assume I would have to contact Ninjatrader brokerage to obtain my Dorman account # (assuming it exists).

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Old July 16th, 2014, 03:24 PM   #237 (permalink)
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NinjaTrader has not raised it's platform pricing (not even for inflation) for 7+ years. We will release new advanced platform features exclusive to our brokerage in 2015. Any NinjaTrader brokerage clients will be protected from any potential price increase as a result of the introduction of these new features.

@NinjaTrader,

Does that protection include all live license holders or is limited to NT brokerage customers and account holders?

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Old July 16th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #238 (permalink)
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Thank you for taking the time to respond. You make a very fair point about no price increases for 7+ years. So, I think I should better articulate my concern.

It seems to be that intentionally or unintentionally, you guys are going the way of creating ecosystem whereby clients using NT through you guys will be treated differently than those who use NT through another brokerage. Putting commissions aside, this could take the form of different pricing structures for the platform, different versions or features of the platform, etc.?

We value all of our clients and do not discriminate between them regardless of if they are a paying user, use our software for free or have a brokerage account with us. All users receive the same high level of service we have built a reputation for. Commissions aside, NinjaTrader Brokerage clients will have an advantage in that:
  • They will receive both platform and brokerage support from a single source
  • They will have access to features only made possible by owning the brokerage. I believe that as a platform provider, we need to provide our clients with a seamless trading experience between desktop and mobile. I also believe that moving desktop features to the server such as ATM strategies and simulation will be extremely well received by traders. I could not deliver on this vision as a standalone platform provider, it was technically and economically unfeasible. It can only be done by controlling both the brokerage and the technology which was one of many reasons for acquiring Mirus Futures. I discuss in much greater detail in my July 2nd webinar.

We have no plans on changing our pricing at this time. In our 10+ year history, we have always grandfathered in pricing and features for existing clients. We still have clients that pay us $20 per month...the price of NinjaTrader Version 1 in July of 2003! My references to price guarantees is simply to re-enforce a policy we have operated under since our inception.

I don't feel you should have any concerns.

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Old July 16th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #239 (permalink)
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and then more recent NFA actions with Vision (FCM) as well as Global Futures (IB, Global clears thru AMP), traders should not take any chances when it comes to their broker.

Dear Mike,
as I am a costumer of Global as IB (but NOT cleared thru AMP but another (I think serious) broker) .. could you give a link to these NFA actions.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 03:41 PM   #240 (permalink)
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Dear Mike,
as I am a costumer of Global as IB (but NOT cleared thru AMP but another (I think serious) broker) .. could you give a link to these NFA actions.
Thanks ))

Search for Global Futures and for Vision Financial on futures.io (formerly BMT). There are threads reviewing those brokerages, and threads contain links to the NFA actions.

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