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Rithmic vs AMP/CQG

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Since all 3 disconnected, could that have been caused by your Internet connection?

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You must be confusing R-Trader with something else, R-Trader is not web based, it's a standalone Windows application.

Rithmic never provides historical tick data, their API (which both MultiCharts and Ninja are using) has no functionality for it. Only minute bar backfill is available and only until symbol's last trade date.

I am not sure that's entirely correct based on the attached showing NT/Rithmic through Vision Financial Markets. Unless the tick data is coming from somewhere else other than Rithmic?


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I am not sure that's entirely correct based on the attached showing NT/Rithmic through Vision Financial Markets. Unless the tick data is coming from somewhere else other than Rithmic?


For some reason I don't see the attachment.
Anyway, see posts #78 & #83.

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I am not sure that's entirely correct based on the attached showing NT/Rithmic through Vision Financial Markets. Unless the tick data is coming from somewhere else other than Rithmic?



from the sierrachart website (rithmic):

"Historical Intraday Data: Yes. 1 minute data available. Tick data available when using Optimus Futures."

thats why my tick charts were messed up. all other feeds produce the same chart, from the first to the last bar.

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Since all 3 disconnected, could that have been caused by your Internet connection?

Yes , I am sure it was my connection.
I want to see how they all handle reconnecting and what not.

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I am not sure that's entirely correct based on the attached showing NT/Rithmic through Vision Financial Markets. Unless the tick data is coming from somewhere else other than Rithmic?

Historical data is coming from somewhere else. None other than Ninja Trader themselves.

NT take the same Rithmic feed you get and store the data on their own servers and NT then provides this to you as your historical data (unless you already have it populated from saving live data as it happens) when you log onto NT and open your connection to Rithmic/Vision.

This is why you will sometimes get gaps in historical data because if NT lose connection with Rithmic then NT cannot capture that trading data and have no way of fixing it later - just the same situation if you as a trader lose your Rithmic connection. If you lose your connection to Rithmic, but NT don't, then you will be able to populate the missing historical data by refreshing your data and the missing bits will come to you from NT's historical data server.

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This week, I am running rithmic and cqg on Multicharts on separate machines with same setup , workspaces, charts, and autotrading signals.

I am running ninja on cqg as well.

Sunday night at around 8 pm, all 3 disconnected. Rithmic reconnected after about 20 seconds. Ninja/cqg took around 4 minutes to reconnect and cqg/MC did not reconnect at all. I had to manually reconnect it and restart autotrade.

That is only incident so far.

There are times I get rithmic disconnects on weekend. I am guessing they do maintenance on the feed. I very very rarely have gotten a disconnect during the week. In fact I can't remember last time that happened. Very reliable, stable and fast. Just does what it is supposed to do without a lot of drama.

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I have discovered that the AMP / Ninja / CQG connection is sensitive to narrow bandwidth internet connections.

I was having drops all the time out on my farm in the sticks and I was driving the AMP guys nuts !!

I got an office in town with a robust connection and bingo... no more drops.

I'm certainly no IT wiz, but it seems like CQG didn't like the bottle necks MY connection was inserting into
the stream...


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I have discovered that the AMP / Ninja / CQG connection is sensitive to narrow bandwidth internet connections.

I was having drops all the time out on my farm in the sticks and I was driving the AMP guys nuts !!

I got an office in town with a robust connection and bingo... no more drops.

I'm certainly no IT wiz, but it seems like CQG didn't like the bottle necks MY connection was inserting into
the stream...


Lesson learned... Get the proper tools for the job

At a minimum I would think this should be fast enough for data feed purposes barring any PC hardware bottlenecks.


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tderrick View Post
I have discovered that the AMP / Ninja / CQG connection is sensitive to narrow bandwidth internet connections.

I was having drops all the time out on my farm in the sticks and I was driving the AMP guys nuts !!

I got an office in town with a robust connection and bingo... no more drops.

I'm certainly no IT wiz, but it seems like CQG didn't like the bottle necks MY connection was inserting into
the stream...


Lesson learned... Get the proper tools for the job

If your internet is via the ADSL2+ technology (as opposed to fiber) check with your ISP that they have 'interleaving' turned OFF for you - normally ISP's default to have it on. Also ensure with your ISP that your ADSL broadband plan does not have data throttling or data shaping - this is where the ISP tries to fairly share broadband capacity by slowing down certain types of data eg peer to peer downloads. Trouble is this type of data traffic is similar to trading data and an ISP who applies data throttling can impact the reliability of your trading data feed.

I had all these problems when I first started trading (note my location) and spent hours and hours with ZenFire guys getting to the bottom of it and the above solutions fixed my issues.

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