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FGBL 500+ contract fills?

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First post, does anyone trade FGBL, wondering if it was traded at 500-1000 contracts if it is liquid enough, to avoid much slippage, avoiding times of major news announcements.

Based on the DOM via NinjaTrader is that all the liquidity at that present time or is there other levels underlying to this?

Thanks

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Hi all

First post, does anyone trade FGBL, wondering if it was traded at 500-1000 contracts if it is liquid enough, to avoid much slippage, avoiding times of major news announcements.

Based on the DOM via NinjaTrader is that all the liquidity at that present time or is there other levels underlying to this?

Thanks

Hi 1873rdvee

Struggling to understand the question. Are you asking in general whether the Bund is liquid enough?

If so, yes, it is one of the most liquid futures contracts on the Eurex. There will be slippages if there are news or data releases impacting the liquidity that MM are willing to provide but you pointed that out yourself.

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Hi 1873rdvee

Struggling to understand the question. Are you asking in general whether the Bund is liquid enough?

If so, yes, it is one of the most liquid futures contracts on the Eurex. There will be slippages if there are news or data releases impacting the liquidity that MM are willing to provide but you pointed that out yourself.

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Thanks for response.

Yes, scalping so wouldn't want more than 1-2 tics slip on the losses.

Do you know if the liquidity showed on ninjatraders Dom is all the liquidity out there or are there other levels of liquidity not shown on the Dom?

Edit---so when a price shows eg 100 contracts on bid or offer could there actually be more than this is what I am asking

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Hi

Thanks for response.

Yes, scalping so wouldn't want more than 1-2 tics slip on the losses.

Do you know if the liquidity showed on ninjatraders Dom is all the liquidity out there or are there other levels of liquidity not shown on the Dom?

Edit---so when a price shows eg 100 contracts on bid or offer could there actually be more than this is what I am asking

Ok........ so generally speaking there's liquidity at various prices - not only the ones shown on the DOM but the ones above and below.... there's a limit only to what is shown - the limit can be exchange-driven or platform-driven.

As far as each price is concerned there also could definitely be more than what the 'stated' liquidity is, so it could show 100 lots on the bid but there is what's called an Iceberg order (or refreshing order) behind, so that once say 80 contracts have traded another 100 are loaded up.

Does it make sense?

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Hi 1873rdvee

Struggling to understand the question. Are you asking in general whether the Bund is liquid enough?

If so, yes, it is one of the most liquid futures contracts on the Eurex. There will be slippages if there are news or data releases impacting the liquidity that MM are willing to provide but you pointed that out yourself.


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Ok........ so generally speaking there's liquidity at various prices - not only the ones shown on the DOM but the ones above and below.... there's a limit only to what is shown - the limit can be exchange-driven or platform-driven.

As far as each price is concerned there also could definitely be more than what the 'stated' liquidity is, so it could show 100 lots on the bid but there is what's called an Iceberg order (or refreshing order) behind, so that once say 80 contracts have traded another 100 are loaded up.

Does it make sense?

Yep that's super, thanks for your help!

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Hi all

First post, does anyone trade FGBL, wondering if it was traded at 500-1000 contracts if it is liquid enough, to avoid much slippage, avoiding times of major news announcements.

Based on the DOM via NinjaTrader is that all the liquidity at that present time or is there other levels underlying to this?

Thanks

Who's trading 500-1000 contracts?

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Hi

Thanks for response.

Yes, scalping so wouldn't want more than 1-2 tics slip on the losses.

Do you know if the liquidity showed on ninjatraders Dom is all the liquidity out there or are there other levels of liquidity not shown on the Dom?

Edit---so when a price shows eg 100 contracts on bid or offer could there actually be more than this is what I am asking

Sort of a strange question. If you are going to be scalping 500 ~ 1000 lots, you should already know the answer.

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Who's trading 500-1000 contracts?


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Sort of a strange question. If you are going to be scalping 500 ~ 1000 lots, you should already know the answer.

I don't think @1873rdvee meant they personally were going to trade that amount. I think he/she was asking whether an instrument with that amount is liquid enough which, of course, depends on the instrument but that's another story.

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I don't think @1873rdvee meant they personally were going to trade that amount. I think he/she was asking whether an instrument with that amount is liquid enough which, of course, depends on the instrument but that's another story.

My bad, I thought @1873rdvee was asking was there enough liquidity for them to scalp 500 ~ 1000 lots.

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