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Why did the 10 year sell off today an hour before stocks and then not react that much to Yellen's comments?

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Why did the 10 year sell off today an hour before stocks and then not react that much to Yellen's comments?

treasuries got crushed on the announcement, with tips and the short end taking the brunt of the damage

bonds started to sell off before the announcement and held up better than the short end after the announcement as the 5/30 and 10/30 flattened on the announcement

methinks someone got caught leaning the wrong way

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treasuries got crushed on the announcement, with tips and the short end taking the brunt of the damage

bonds started to sell off before the announcement and held up better than the short end after the announcement as the 5/30 and 10/30 flattened on the announcement

methinks someone got caught leaning the wrong way

1. When you say the treasuries you mean all the US interest contracts?
2. "with tips and shorts" what do you mean here? If you were short wouldn't you have made $
3. When you say the announcement you mean the release of the minutes right as opposed to Yellen's comments?

sorry for all the newbie questions. starting to learn. Thanks for responding.

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Janet didn't have the best first meeting she gave the indication that there would be a rates increase coming up. So the Bond markets and Gold sold off based on reactionary selling, however in my view its just that reactionary I can't see it happening anytime early/mid this year.

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Janet didn't have the best first meeting she gave the indication that there would be a rates increase coming up. So the Bond markets and Gold sold off based on reactionary selling, however in my view its just that reactionary I can't see it happening anytime early/mid this year.


yeah, yellen came out a bit more hawkish than expected, which wouldn't have mattered if traders had been positioned correctly - hence the reaction on the short end of the curve. more importantly, the rally in equities is built on cheap money. it really doesn't matter when a rate hike happens; or even if the Fed actually does or doesn't raise rates; if the markets begin to discount higher rates.

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Well its all about perception, I think the Fed were trying to convince themselves and hoping that everyone else believed in it being a genuine and fundamental improvement in terms. I tend to agree with you but they've been grasping for straws ever since all these markets started rallying last year. The underlying problems created throguh debt crisis are going to be here for decades to come in my view.

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Janet didn't have the best first meeting she gave the indication that there would be a rates increase coming up. So the Bond markets and Gold sold off based on reactionary selling, however in my view its just that reactionary I can't see it happening anytime early/mid this year.

Janet did just fine. Mute cnbc and santelli. Markets fluctuate after fomc meetings. Wait for the dust to settle. What really has changed. Not much.

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Janet did just fine. Mute cnbc and santelli. Markets fluctuate after fomc meetings. Wait for the dust to settle. What really has changed. Not much.

I don't think she meant to give the markets those details on the IR plans, it was a mistake. Not going to shoot her over it, but certainly it was probably not the ideal for her.

As you say its the norm for move. I don't watch the commentary either, it's best to do your own thinking. I think I read that in a Van Tharp book years ago ..lol..but very true non the less.

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