NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Newbie Infopool: Trading PC, Platform, Books - Recommendations


Discussion in Traders Hideout

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one 427Rat with 5 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two Fat Tails with 4 posts (37 thanks)
    3. looks_3 Big Mike with 3 posts (9 thanks)
    4. looks_4 deltason with 1 posts (10 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one deltason with 10 thanks per post
    2. looks_two Fat Tails with 9.3 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 vegasfoster with 7 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 3 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 15,312 views
    2. thumb_up 73 thanks given
    3. group 13 followers
    1. forum 20 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Newbie Infopool: Trading PC, Platform, Books - Recommendations

  #11 (permalink)
 
427Rat's Avatar
 427Rat 
SK
 
Experience: None
Platform: NinjaTrader
Posts: 7 since Jul 2010
Thanks Given: 11
Thanks Received: 1

Thanks for the reply! Alright, well I added all your recommendations (Microsoft 7 64-bit, 8GB of ram, a 1TB hard drive and an i7 860 processor) and it only bumped up the price around $325 to $2167 (shipping is free, includes the monitor). This is also including a $225 discount through "Dell small business special offer". Does this seem like a decent price? I'll do a bit more research tomorrow before I purchase it. BTW taking off Microsoft Office saved $199!!

Started this thread Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
Trade idea based off three indicators.
Traders Hideout
ZombieSqueeze
Platforms and Indicators
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
Pivot Indicator like the old SwingTemp by Big Mike
NinjaTrader
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Spoo-nalysis ES e-mini futures S&P 500
29 thanks
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
25 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
24 thanks
Bigger Wins or Fewer Losses?
23 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
18 thanks
  #12 (permalink)
 Twiddle 
Sydney, Australia
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Ninjatrader
Broker: Mirus
Trading: FDAX
Posts: 139 since May 2010
Thanks Given: 150
Thanks Received: 94


Big Mike View Post
@ 427Rat,

I would go for Windows 7 64-bit, it should be same cost. I would get 8GB of ram, not 4. If the only thing that will ever be open at one time is your trading app, than 4GB is fine (as is 32-bit) but if you have a couple browsers open, email, decide to make a video here or there, etc, you'll be better off with 8GB and give you room to grow.


Are there still problems with Ninja/Zen Fire and 64 bit?

Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,443 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,217
Thanks Received: 101,603



427Rat View Post
Thanks for the reply! Alright, well I added all your recommendations (Microsoft 7 64-bit, 8GB of ram, a 1TB hard drive and an i7 860 processor) and it only bumped up the price around $325 to $2167 (shipping is free, includes the monitor). This is also including a $225 discount through "Dell small business special offer". Does this seem like a decent price? I'll do a bit more research tomorrow before I purchase it. BTW taking off Microsoft Office saved $199!!

That seems overpriced. You should look here for instance:
Newegg.com - HP Pavilion Elite HPE-250F Intel Core i7 860(2.80GHz) 8GB DDR3 1TB ATI Radeon HD 5770 Windows 7 Home [AUTOLINK]Premium[/AUTOLINK] 64-bit

Adding a 24" monitor is not much, monitors are very personal things but here is an example:
Newegg.com - ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 (1000:1) Built-in Speakers

Total above is like $1250.

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #14 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,443 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,217
Thanks Received: 101,603


Twiddle View Post
Are there still problems with Ninja/Zen Fire and 64 bit?

NT7 32-bit is probably perfectly suitable for majority of users, and works fine with Zen Fire. NT7 64-bit does not yet support Zen Fire, although they previously stated it would at some point. That was before they announced Kinetic however, so who knows now.

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #15 (permalink)
 MetalTrade 
 
Posts: 1,055 since May 2010

i would advise trading forex as a newbie

you'll get slaughtered with futures, believe me

Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)
 
Fat Tails's Avatar
 Fat Tails 
Berlin, Europe
Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Broker: Interactive Brokers
Trading: Keyboard
Posts: 9,888 since Mar 2010
Thanks Given: 4,242
Thanks Received: 27,102


MetalTrade View Post
i would advise trading forex as a newbie

you'll get slaughtered with futures, believe me


And you are likely to get slaughtered with FOREX as well.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #17 (permalink)
 
cbritton's Avatar
 cbritton 
Atlanta, Georgia
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Broker: DDT
Trading: ZN, ZB
Posts: 230 since Mar 2010
Thanks Given: 152
Thanks Received: 256


MetalTrade View Post
i would advise trading forex as a newbie

you'll get slaughtered with futures, believe me

I think finding the instrument to trade is a personal issue about one's own trading style. It took me a long time to find what suites me best. I'm a student of price action and I follow Brooks' method but not to the letter. That being said, finding an instrument with a decent amount of price action on a time frame that works for me took a lot of sim practice. I hate ES, but I like TF and SB. That just works for me. Forex, and by extension, the currency futures and ETN's don't do it for me on the short time/tick charts. Longer term, like 4 hour charts, are actually not bad for trend following, but I can't put on my trading hat every 4 hours, 24 hours a day, 5.5 days a week. My concentration span is about 2 hours at a time.

Fat Tail's suggestion of trading ETF's or ETN's is a good one. If you like the emini's or other commodities, look for ETN's that are based on those indexes. i.e. SPY or SSO for ES, IWM for TF, QQQQ for NQ, FXE for EUR/USD or 6E, etc. Take your sim trading very seriously and take note of how you feel about winning and losing. I have a tendency to put more scrutiny on my winners because I'm more concerned about getting rewarded for bad decisions.

Regards,
-C

“Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” - Sun Tzu
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)
Marknyc
Scotch plains, nj
 
Posts: 1 since Sep 2010
Thanks Given: 0
Thanks Received: 0


deltason View Post
I don't like giving advice, especially when it comes to trading, but you can take this post into consideration if you'd like.

I think studying the following books can help a newbie build a foundation of knowledge.

Reminisces of a Stock Operator by Edwin Lefevre
Trade Your Way to Financial Freedom by Van K. Tharp
Mind Over Markets by James F. Dalton (and then visit futurestrader71's website - Simplicity in Trading)
The Daily Trading Coach by Brett N. Steenbarger

Beyond the recommended list I personally wouldn't pay for any educational tools right away, especially related to technical analysis. When it comes to trading my experience is that valuable information is almost always free. And this is from someone that's spent WAY too much money on trading education. Reading the threads and watching the webinars here at futures.io (formerly BMT) will definitely get you going in the right direction. There's a ton of excellent information on this site supported by many generous and knowledgeable traders. And as you continue to dig you'll find references to free resources elsewhere as well.

Most importantly, I think that asking questions, thinking for yourself, setting goals, documenting and tracking your experiences (charts/journal/analysis), and making and correcting lots of mistakes are the best bets to get you where you want to go if you're passionate about it.

Best wishes.

Thanks!
Great advice for a newbie like me!

Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)
 
lsubeano's Avatar
 lsubeano 
hollywood
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: thinkorswim
Broker: TD
Trading: futures
Posts: 213 since Jun 2010
Thanks Given: 65
Thanks Received: 165

Just wanted to add a good free book and a not free book.

Joe Ross's TLOC (google it) is free and it's a simplier Al Brooks H1/H2, L1/L2, way of looking at price action.

Curtis Faith's Gut book. Great view of crowd psychology and simple swing trading (he's not so much in favor of day trading).

Follow me on Twitter Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #20 (permalink)
 
Fat Tails's Avatar
 Fat Tails 
Berlin, Europe
Market Wizard
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NinjaTrader, MultiCharts
Broker: Interactive Brokers
Trading: Keyboard
Posts: 9,888 since Mar 2010
Thanks Given: 4,242
Thanks Received: 27,102



427Rat View Post
I'm about to order a new computer that will be basically only used for trading. I honestly don't know a lot about computers and I have been doing some reading in the past month so that I don't waste my money. I don't want to go the custom built route because it is just to complicated for me. I think that I am settled on a Dell. This is what I have chosen:
-BASE/ POWER SUPPLY OptiPlex 980 Minitower for Standard Power Supply
-OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Professional, No Media, 32-bit, English
-PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 750 (2.66GHz, 8M)
-OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft® Office Home and Business 2010, English
-WARRANTY & SERVICE 3 Year Basic Limited Warranty and 3 Year NBD On-Site Service
-ENERGY EFFICIENCY OPTIONS Dell Energy Smart Power Management Settings Enabled
-HARD DRIVE 250GB 7,200 RPM 2.5" SATA, 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive with NCQ and 16MB Cache
-ECO KIT No Eco Kit
-HARD DRIVE MODE No RAID
-SECURITY SOFTWARE Trend Micro Internet Security 15 month, English
-MEMORY 4GB DDR3 Non-ECC SDRAM,1333MHz, (2 DIMM)
-OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD-ROM SATA, with Cyberlink Power DVD™ No Media
-VIDEO CARD 256MB ATI RADEON HD 3450 (2 DVI /1 TV-out), Full Height
-MONITOR Dell UltraSharp™ 2007FP 20in HAS Monitor, VGA/ DVI
-SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT MODE No Out-of-Band Systems Management
-OPTIPLEX ON No Dell OptiPlex ON® Reader
-1394 FIREWIRE ADAPTER 1394 FW Controller Card, Full Height

Please give me your recommendations. Is this a decent starter computer for trading? Are all the components fairly evenly matched? Anything overkill or not enough? As it sits, will I be able to add another monitor in the future if I want to? Thanks for your advice!

It is a question of your budget. For starting nearly any PC will do, which has enough RAM, a fast CPU and allows you to connect at least two monitors. The CPU you selected has a passmark of 4268 and should do fine, the RAM is a bit meagre, so you should better put in 6GByte or 8GByte as Mike suggested,

If you want to be able to upgrade the machine later to become a real trading PC, you should have a look at the Dell Precision Workstation T3500 Essential with an Intel Xeon W3530 processor. The processor is a bit faster than the above, The workstation can be ordered with dual NVidia NVS 295 adapters, which will allow you to connect up to 4 high resolution monitors. The miminum recommended RAM would be 6 GByte. This would be a professional trading station, but it is not suited for 3D video games.

That said, if you just want a trading computer for a beginning trader, your setup is just fine, if you add some RAM.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on June 28, 2011


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts