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Ehm, what I am going to say here? I experimenting with futures and options. I have to work through your forum to find what I am looking for. Hope to find it. At the moment I think I not can give much or anything to your people, as most of you seem to be pros. I tried and did follow closely today's price action and when I saw the move up like today of 160 points in the Dow Cow at the moment Sir Ben spoke, I was wondering again how professional day traders like you handle such moves? As there are day traders, swing traders and positional traders, as far as I learned through reading, I wondering who made the big bugs today? Are hedgers the winners or are stop loss traders on pivots the winners or who are the winners? I am clear that this are newbie thoughts from somebody with just beginner knowledge, so do not laugh about my thoughts.

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Welcome to the board.

The winners vary and the risk varies. For example a high risk trader might have made/lost money by making that the stock would go higher/lower. A low risk trader might have made money by executing a straddle or a long strangle.

More importantly though, I think that a large # of low risk traders actually trade a tested set-up so that probability is on their side in the long run. As a result, a lot of traders likely steered clear of trading completely when Ben Bernake started speaking

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Welcome to the board.

The winners vary and the risk varies. For example a high risk trader might have made/lost money by making that the stock would go higher/lower. A low risk trader might have made money by executing a straddle or a long strangle.

More importantly though, I think that a large # of low risk traders actually trade a tested set-up so that probability is on their side in the long run. As a result, a lot of traders likely steered clear of trading completely when Ben Bernake started speaking

@Bermudan Option

Thanks for that comment.

Now let me add the following link to your post. A link I just was pointed too when reading the Spiegel:

Some traders got 'no taper' decision news early

Is it allowed to ask: Are retailers maybe cheated?

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@Bermudan Option

Thanks for that comment.

Now let me add the following link to your post. A link I just was pointed too when reading the Spiegel:

Some traders got 'no taper' decision news early

Is it allowed to ask: Are retailers maybe cheated?

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Everyone is looking for an edge in the trading world. Trading off of inside information is not an edge that most retail (or most professional) traders are privy to, so focusing your effort on the few that cheat the system does not increase your chances of making money in the slightest. (In fact, I would venture to say that there is a strong correlation of "people who think the market is rigged" and "people who do not take responsibility for their trading") In my opinion, your best bet would be to accept/overlook the small minority of people making money illegally, and work to create a sound trading strategy that YOU can implement.

A good place to start would be checking out some of the free futures.io (formerly BMT) seminars uploaded to Youtube

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Thanks to mention the above link: https://www.youtube.com/user/BigMikeTrading/videos

I went through it for the first time and found a lot of very interesting seminars. It is not a link for people which want to know much more about options or option trading, as the one and I think only seminar about options I saw is just of very basic information.

But there are so many other gems about so many other subjects. I am not much interested in indicators and such stuff, so the Al Brooks seminars and the one about Wyckoff did meet my taste about how to analyze charts. As I went further, I also found some nice seminars about trading psychology. So the whole link is really worth to go through. A little gem

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Here two videos, not from the link you showed me, but two videos which really have been eye openers to me about option trading and trading psychology:

OPTION TRADER makes $105MM PROFIT in the NDX, SPX & RUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BquDGE9KxZQ

Mark Douglas - MIND OVER MARKET (Full Interview)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soynQs8qxCA

Absolute high class videos, not matched by many paid online seminars or even paid membership seminars.

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@Bermudan Option

Here two videos, not from the link you showed me, but two videos which really have been eye openers to me about option trading and trading psychology:

OPTION TRADER makes $105MM PROFIT in the NDX, SPX & RUT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BquDGE9KxZQ

Mark Douglas - MIND OVER MARKET (Full Interview)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soynQs8qxCA

Absolute high class videos, not matched by many paid online seminars or even paid membership seminars.

Stan Dan

Thanks. Already seen the Tasty Trade interview and a bunch of their other videos. I like listening to Sosnoff go off on tangents ever since his ThinkOrSwim days.

As for Mark Douglas, I have read Trading in The Zone many times.

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Thanks. Already seen the Tasty Trade interview and a bunch of their other videos. I like listening to Sosnoff go off on tangents ever since his ThinkOrSwim days.

As for Mark Douglas, I have read Trading in The Zone many times.

Well, as you are also in options like your avatar name shows, as you also like the interviews of Sosnoff which are very informative, I will meet you the next time in your thread about using options for swing trading. Did not have the time until now to go through it in the last detail, but will do so as soon as time permits.

https://futures.io/trading-journals/24513-using-options-swing-trading.html#post281834

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