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Live in SG, wanna trade US, dont want letency, no technology on earth can support that as per now.
The easiest way is to adjust your trading style & strategy.

Andy

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If latency is important, you aren't trading from Singapore. The end.

You may live in Singapore, but your trading server is next to the matching engine in Chicago.

Mike

Latency isn't important - certainly the difference between 30ms and 300ms is the blink of an eye. Totally irrelevant for anyone placing trades manually.

Unless you are using automation, then there is no benefit in co-locating of one part of your system to Chicago. Latency would be exactly the same.

Of course, you want to make sure that stop orders aren't merely resident on your PC but what platform actually does that anyway? It's usually only the cancelling of the other side of an OCO that is done on your trading client software and 270ms delay there wont make any difference either IMO.

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Latency isn't important - certainly the difference between 30ms and 300ms is the blink of an eye. Totally irrelevant for anyone placing trades manually.

Unless you are using automation, then there is no benefit in co-locating of one part of your system to Chicago. Latency would be exactly the same.

Of course, you want to make sure that stop orders aren't merely resident on your PC but what platform actually does that anyway? It's usually only the cancelling of the other side of an OCO that is done on your trading client software and 270ms delay there wont make any difference either IMO.

I've said this at length in other threads. We agree. But the comment about a latency sensitive trader trading from Singapore makes no sense when you can lease a server in Chicago for next to nothing.

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hi andy, u've sent me PM, i tried to reply but seems u disable it


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Live in SG, wanna trade US, dont want letency, no technology on earth can support that as per now.
The easiest way is to adjust your trading style & strategy.

Andy


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I've said this at length in other threads. We agree. But the comment about a latency sensitive trader trading from Singapore makes no sense when you can lease a server in Chicago for next to nothing.

Mike

Having said that, we appreciate if you can post some VPS in Chicago for our consideration.
Thanks.
TW

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Live in SG, wanna trade US, dont want letency, no technology on earth can support that as per now.
The easiest way is to adjust your trading style & strategy.

Andy

Why do you think latency will impact your trading?

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hi andy, u've sent me PM, i tried to reply but seems u disable it


Hi Soonhwei, I didnt change anything so far, any idea how to enable it.

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Having said that, we appreciate if you can post some VPS in Chicago for our consideration.
Thanks.
TW

Search for VPS, several threads.

Mike

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hey mike, thanks for your suggestion
i was thinking of this solution before, since i've never met any problem trading US futures from Singapore, not really into it then.
but am thinking bout eurex futures, heard lot guys discussed bout their connectivity issues before, as i might want to trade bund/bobl, do you think renting VPS in EU helps? do you have experience on this?


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Search for VPS, several threads.

Mike


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hey mike, thanks for your suggestion
i was thinking of this solution before, since i've never met any problem trading US futures from Singapore, not really into it then.
but am thinking bout eurex futures, heard lot guys discussed bout their connectivity issues before, as i might want to trade bund/bobl, do you think renting VPS in EU helps? do you have experience on this?

Eurex can be a bit of a pain from here - but to be honest, I think the problem is more down to Eurex than anything else.

If you use any of the deep discount US futures brokers - amp, mirus,infinity etc, especially those that give you XTrader for $1 a trade - then you are going to probably have some issues - like the whole thing going down on a regular basis. It's nice to have markets that open during Asia afternoon of course but those deep discount guys are a but flaky.

IB are OK - as in there's very rarely a problem with Eurex but I hear they don't keep your stops at the exchange and I recently had a trade SLIP 23 ticks on the Bund with IB, which could well be because of stop location.

Now - if you do get a VPS next to the exchange, you will still have latency between you & the VPS. So if you are trading manually, it wont make any difference. The difference for a manual trader would be down to stop placement but really it's your broker location that really makes the difference IMO.

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