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  #8561 (permalink)
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Intro

Hi Y’all:
At it since 01 – stocks first – then derivatives, with a flurry of FOREX somewhere in there. Made some, lost a little and so far have not managed to blow up an account. On-again-off-again due to a busy day-job, from which I have cashed my chips. Primary platform is Sierra Charts trading short-term scalps in ES/YM/ZN/ZB/ESTX50/GBL. Would like to learn other markets. My edge(s): Order Flow, intermarket divergence, Crabel’s ORB, with a heavy dose of an old ‘trading educator’ from Austin, TX.

Thank you for having me!

Almost

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So if I'm going to pour any more blood, sweat, or tears into something, it's going to be trading.

And nothing else.

Hey 4BetTheFarm!

That's a really tough story you tell here, be proud of yourself that you did not give up and are still giving your best to make the most out of your life. You still follow your dreams.

On the other hand, I can sense a lot of emotion in your writing. Determination is good, but keep in mind that in trading you've got to stay cool even after multiple punches in your face and the market screaming "no boy, not today!".

I think you know what I mean, I think you already learned this in Poker and the 2 years trading at 17. Your high determination to succeed and the will to figure out the markets is great, but in front of the screen there is no place for emotion. Try to attach your emotion to the process, be proud of yourself if you have sticked to your rules and don't give a damn if you get beaten up 4 times in a row but the setup was great.

You got the fire, but in front of the screen keep that fire controlled and walk that path like a professional.

Hope with this post I could help a little on your path to become a professional trader.

Welcome to futures.io!

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//snip

With only $6, liquid, to my name, I don't care.
...
If it takes me another TEN YEARS of living with my mother, rent-free, to figure out how to trade, then it will take me ten years of living with my mother, rent-free, to figure out how to trade.

I don't want to do anything else for money. Trade for a living, or face death. All or nothing.

Thank you for sharing.

If I can give 1 tip, from somebody who has been around the block before.
I admire your tenacity with it, but living in the all or nothing situation is dangerous.
The more you are invested in it financially the more emotion is invested in it,
and you will constantly get the wild swings.

Put yourself in a position that you choose to trade, not "my life is dependent on it".
Which could mean taking a stable job or having some stable income.
Without stability it will be a very difficult journey and it does not have to be.

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This post is primarily for myself. I hope to one day look back and reminisce.


- Price action, SIM trading, screen time. I think I finally found the golden nuggets in a pile of dog vomit.

- I have become obsessed with figuring out how to consistently trade for a profit.


I don't want to do anything else for money. Trade for a living, or face death. All or nothing.

And nothing else.


Hey, I just read your post... I suggest you to take it really easy. For what your write, it seems as though your are really good in "pumping your ego" and motivate yourself. This is great for any entrepreneurial ventures, for sales, for motivational speaking etc. However don't try to apply this to trading.
Trading is about taking rationale decisions.

Then you say you found the "holy grail", don't be naive... nowadays you are competing against algorithms and robots that are programmed by brilliant minds. You have no formal education, don't believe that you are a genius and if you are a genius, don't believe that others are not.

Be objective about your potential! take an IQ test to chekc your level of intelligence, it will put things in perspectives.

Ok you made a few bucks with poker, but in poker you cannot lose what you don't have, in trading you can lose far more than what you put in your bank account.

It takes years to learn trading. I don't want to put you down, everyone can learn, but don't think you are more motivated than other traders are.... you don't know how much they are motivated.

Also, consider the scenario in which trading it won't work for at least a couple of years.... this might be a trigger for your alcohol addiction. Be very cautious.

Wish you all the best

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I appreciate the words of concern. Really, I do. But there's a lot I'm not mentioning about what I've been doing to develop myself as a person, while in the trenches of life. This isn't a decision I have made lightly.

Two hundred years from now we'll all be dead and it will be like we have never existed, practically speaking.

All-or-nothing is the only kind of bet which makes sense. Had I been a child with no life experience, this would be a very legitimate concern. Most people really don't know themselves or what they want out of life.

Even though there is some truth in what you say, the part of the "All-or-nothing is the only kind of bet which makes sense" is rubbish.
You are literally putting your life on the line whether you will make it in this career or not.
Its like saying this audition on pop idols defines me as a person.
The only way you will make it in trading (in the long run) is if you define your worth to be more than a trader.
Only when you find stability in yourself will you
-> be able to make rational decisions,
-> and when you make rational decisions only then
-> will you be able to survive the drawdowns and only
-> once you survive the drawdowns will you be profitable

If you have an account of $30 and losing $10 will feel massive in your world.
You already mentioned you have a fear of losing money.
FOMO - fear of missing out is another daemon that will drive you to bad trades in your current state.

And also on my side - theres a lot I havent mentioned about how I've go through the trenches of life and learned these things.

Best of Luck, but learn to take it slow.
Its going to be ok.

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Even though there is some truth in what you say, the part of the "All-or-nothing is the only kind of bet which makes sense" is rubbish.
You are literally putting your life on the line whether you will make it in this career or not.
Its like saying this audition on pop idols defines me as a person.
The only way you will make it in trading (in the long run) is if you define your worth to be more than a trader.
Only when you find stability in yourself will you
-> be able to make rational decisions,
-> and when you make rational decisions only then
-> will you be able to survive the drawdowns and only
-> once you survive the drawdowns will you be profitable

If you have an account of $30 and losing $10 will feel massive in your world.
You already mentioned you have a fear of losing money.
FOMO - fear of missing out is another daemon that will drive you to bad trades in your current state.

And also on my side - theres a lot I havent mentioned about how I've go through the trenches of life and learned these things.

Best of Luck, but learn to take it slow.
Its going to be ok.

I agree completely, besides I think that there is a sort of desire for self-destruction in everyone of use. Probably this guy
has more of that, than the average person. This explains in part his words and also his past alcohol addiction.
I also observed a certain desire of self destruction in myself when I make trading mistakes.....

This desire for self-destruction in trading is normally very short lived, buy 20 contracts of /ES without a strategy and you normally achieve the self destruction in a matter of minutes. :-)

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The head of the major cryptocurrency exchange BitMEX Arthur Hayes (Arthur Hayes) believes that the "cryptocurrency winter" is over and the Bitcoin rate this year will reach $ 10,000. Is this possible this year?

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Hi

Looking forward to learning new things in this forum!

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Hi:

I started trading again full time when I was forced out of the corporate world. I’ve got a mentor, access to education, and trading small is until I gain experience.

My results so far? Not making money, but not losing it either!!! To me that’s a good start.

I trade primarily SPX index options and some futures such as /CL & /GC.

Keith


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Hello World!


I was first introduced to options trading I think about 5 years ago. I lost money chasing the money, but came out with a valuable lesson; I didn't really know anything about the market. At that point I considered it to be gambling and stopped. I made myself read some books before I started up again.

I read some books about options trading. I was using MT4 to trade with my options. This is the part I found out about indicators and like any newbie, I thought I could put together some indicators to create a system. I even tried to learn a little coding so that I didn't rely on other's indicator. I scoped the internet for other strategies that could give me some edge. Unfortunately, I found out the hard way that that wasn't the holy grail. I took some time off to learn more.

Last year I decided to join a group for a small fee, that was not futures.io, to see what I could learn from them. I came in weary that this would be another "trading group," but trading group or not, it turned out I learned a lot. I took the course as if it were any other university course. I learned about the psychology when trading, money management, entries, exits, and the way to view the market and how it correlated it with news that was going on. I tried to make some manual trades to see if I could get consistent $30 profits for each day but still my emotions got in the way. I made some money but mostly lost some.

It was then that I knew I needed to automate some of my bias-ness since I was being inconsistent in my trades. I did a little coding from MT4 but wanted to learn NT7 since it was a much better platform for me. I took some time off to find things that could teach me how to properly use NT7 and write scripts for NT7. I wanted to create something that I could use for NADEX mostly since it had some limited risk and small account funding.

This is when I found futures.io. Although, I found it very helpful it was very confusing for me of where to start. As I learned more and more about scripts, I became more intrigued by NT7 automated trading system since it could eliminate my emotions all together. But I dare not touch the REAL trading platform just yet since I hardly knew about the fees, margins, taxes and etc. Nor do I have the sufficient funds to actually trade without the risk that's added with trading with a platform.

At this moment, as I learned more and more about the use of NT7 and NT8. It made me a bit more nervous because it made me realize I didn't know much of anything: risk of backtesting, optimization, and errors that may occur. I was at a lost for a while until I reached out to a member in the forum that helped give me a sense of direction. He reminded me that trading in a group gives one strength.

I look back at a post by George,

He was talking about the 4 stages of a trader.
1. Being unconsciously incompetent
2. Consciously incompetent
3. Consciously Competent
4. Unconsciously competent

That fear takes hold of me as I'm unsure of where I am truly am, in the stages. I would hope I'm at stage 2 at least, but for all I know I could still be at 1.

I understand the indicators that are being used and why you use them now. I don't just throw indicators randomly like I used to anymore. I know how to think up ideas for my own automation strategies (Or at least I think I do). Yet I'm still clueless about some of the basics and there are tools that I still want to learn about.

I'm currently reading some books about the basics and hopefully it could give me some confidences as I move forward.


What I'm looking for is to just dip my feet into the waters with limited risk and stop losses to learn about what traps that may arise with real money and not just a simulation.

tenders

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